William WEBB
Birth:
Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Death:
Holcombe, Minchinhapmton, Yorkshire, England
Burial:
Sep 1634
Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Father:
Mother:
Notes:
NOTE:
William's will and other research detail are in PAF Notes.
MINCHINHAMPTON, Gloucestershire - Searches in original registers which start in1561 - coveringBaptisms and Burials 1561-1752; Marriages taken from the printedregister, but incorporated here into the general list compiled. The register islargely written in LATIN, though I think you will be able to identify the meanings of some of the basic terms: e.g.:The words "baptizma etc." & "sepulta" referto "baptism" and "burial" whilst filius" or "filia" refer to "son" and "daughter"; Some names such as Ricardi (Richard); Guielmi or Guielmus (William); Georgius(George) and Jacobi (James) can be simply translated, but others were more difficult to decipher. Many events were also jumbled together, and it was often difficult to decide whether one was referring to a baptism or a burial. As I say, without William's will, constructing the family tree would have been impossible. However, this is the list we have compiled to date:?? May 1566 - "'Willim ?.... Norman and Agnes Webb" (event unclear)29 May 1567 William Newman & Agnes Webb married?? September 1571 - "Elizabeth Webb" (event unclear)?? July 1573 - 'WilliamWebb" (I presume this to be a burial)9 September 1574 - "baptizata - James Webb"17 Jan. 1574/75 Thomas Pynffold & Alice Webb married2 Mar. 1578/79 - 'William Webb & Anne Nelmes" married[***Note: another possibility has been left out of thelist: Wyllm Webbe md Anne Mines 18 Feb 1578 Minchinhampton, Gloucester]30 July 1579 Thomas Webb & Agnes Millward married19 Jan. 1583/84 James Davys & Agnes Webbmarried1 Aug. 1586 John Webb & Margerie Goughe married28 Apr. 1586 Richard Webb& Jane Packer married19 September 1586 - "baptizata - Ricardi Webb"13 February1587/58 - "baptizata - Anna Webbe"17 September 1589 "Joanna Webbe(?)" (event/surname unclear ~ cannot be certain "Webbe" is written)13 September 1590 Nathaniell, filius Willia Webb14 July 1591 ~ "baptizata - Jacob -?- -?- Webb (middle wordsillegible)27 Oct. 1593 Thomas Webb & Jane Heavan married8 January 1593 or 1594(jumbled text, uncertain of exact year) "baptizata - William Webb"9 April 1594 ~"Agnes Webb" (probably buried, text very faint)30 May 159(4?). "baptizata. Martha filia William Webb"12 June 1599 - "baptizata - Henrius filius Georg Webb"?? July 1599 - "baptizata - Timotheus filius Willim Webb"?? March 1601 . "baptizataWilliam filius Guielmi Webbe"(Possibly William's last child, though there is nomention of him in the will.... he may have died.)(Entries from 1602 until 1605 are very faint & barely legible)?? May 1606 - "baptizata - Armes(?) filia GeorgeWebb"1 July 1605 Samuel Webb & Edith Ousborne married3 June 1607 - "sepulta - Henrius Webb"24 June 1608 - "sepulta - Georgius Webb"27 May 1610 - "baptizata - Tho. filius Aeaion(?) Webb"19 September 1613 - "sepulta - Thomas Webbe"?? December1613 - "baptizata - Deborah filia Aegion Webbe"13(?) August 1615 - baptizata -Gulielium (= William) filius Richardi Webb"(possibly a child of Richard, born 1586. he would have been 29 years old by now and may well have married Elizabeth by now...as most men named their first son after their father, my guess is that he belongs on "your" Webb "tree" ... Richard's will in 1658 makes no mention of ason called William, so I cannot be sure about this..Having said that many children of course died young, and he may be the one who died in 1633; unfortunately,as well as not being able to locate Richard and Elizabeth's marriage (c. 1615?), we have been unable to locate the baptisms of his other children either. (seelater)17 May 1616. "baptizata - Saxan(?) filia Egion Webbe"(From 1618 the entries become very jumbled & difficult to read again - 1618 - very jumbled, entries slant in both directions, writing difficult to decipher. But entries now writtenin English)17 Oct 1618 . baptism: "Danyell, sonne of G. Webb(?)" (cannot be sureentry reads "Webb");26 Nov. 1618 - baptism: "Martha(?), dau. of Webb"11 May 1619 - burial: "Thomas Webb"5 Dec. 1618 - baptism: "Tymothy, son of Richard Webb"(Again, another possible child of "your" Richard, born in 1586, especially as we know Tymothy was
a christian name used in the family... note that he died in 1624.)?? January 1621 or 1622 (difficult to establish) - baptism: "Thomas, sonne of Edmund Webb"(Legibility improves slightly 1622)13 Dec. 1623 - baptism: "Tymothie, the sonne of Geiles Webb"?? April 1624 - bap.: "Marie, clan. of Ambrose Webb"?? May 1624 - bap.: "Edmund, sonne of Edmund Webb"17 July 1624 - bap.: "Samuel, sonne of RichardWebb"11 Feb. 1624/1625 - burial: "John, the sonne of (?) Webb"22 Mar. 1624/25 -burial: "Tymothy, son of Richard Webb"(presumably the child born in 1618)25 Sept. 1625 Richard Webb & Jane Elger married(I am assuming that this was another Richard Webb - Richard born in 1586 would have been 39 years old by now, and we have the evidence of those earlier baptisms in 1615 and 1618, and the wills of William and Richard's own will confirming that his wife was called ELIZABETH..)?? Dec. 1625 - bap.: "Sarah, dau. of Ambrose Webb"?? March 1626 - bap.: "Richard(?),son of Jacob(?) Webb"7 Sept. 1627 - bap. "Elizabeth, dau. of Richard Webb"(Possibly a daughter of Richard and Jane?)?? Jan. 1628 - burial: "Jone/June, dau; of William Webb"4 July 1629 - bap.: "Nathaniell, sonne of Geyles Webb"5 July 1629 -bap.: "Hanna(?), dau. of Ambrose Webb"7 March 1630 - bap. "Richard, sonne of Thomas Webb"4 April 1630 ~ bar. "Martha, dau. of Pirham(?) Webb"3 June 1630 - burial: "Marjorie Webb"?? August 1630 - bap.: "Martha, dau. of Edmund Webb"1630 - bap.: "John, son of Edmond Webb"13 Aug. 1631 - burial "Jacie, wife of Thomas Webb"?? August 1633 - burial: "William Webb"(possibly the child born in 1615 - not theolder William Webb whose will we have - he wrote this on the 10th Oct. 1633, sohe is clearly the one who died in September 1634.)24 Nov. 1633 or 1634 - (unclear, entries jumbled) bap.: "SamueIl, son of Gylob(?) Webb25 Nov. 1633 or 1634 -bap. "Daniell, son of Gylob(?) Webb"11 Feb. 1633 or 1634 (unclear, entries jumbled) - bap.: "Thomas, son of Edmond Webb"12 March 1633/4 - burial: "Thomas. son of Edmond Webb"(1633 registers are jumbled; 1634 entries return to Latin)?? Sept.1634 - "sepult Gulielmas Webb" = WILLIAM WEBB buried18 June 1635 "sepulta JanaWebb" (= JANE WEBB)(possibly the wife of the other Richard?)(Sept. 1635 entriesback to English)11 Dec 1635 burial: "Elizabeth, wife of Ambrose Webb"8 April 1636 burial: "Joseph, son of Ambrose Webb"(Images now become sporadically faint & illegible)20 Nov. 1636 bap.: "Elizabeth, dau. of Ambrose Webb"11 Jan. 1637 - burial: "Henrio(1) Webb"?? Sept. 1640 burial: "John, son of William Webb" (surname unclear)16 Feb. 1641 - burial: "Edmond Webb"8 May 1641 - bap.: "Nathaniel, son ofNathaniel Webb"Aug. 1641 - burial: "Joan, wife of Ambrose Webb"(July 1645 -lesslegible again)"Mary, dau. of Richard Webb, borne on 12th day of March and baptised on 23rd day of March 1646)(Probably this is the Richard born in 1626, but again, difficult to be sure.)The Registers then become jumbled & incomplete, presumably due to the upheaval of the English Civil War. One page covers entries from1644 until 1651 Registers then resume 'normally' by 1652)1 Feb. 1652/3 burial:"Elizabeth, wife of Richard Webb"(This must be "your" Richard's wife - Note: Richard mentions his wife, Elizabeth in his will, which he wrote in 1649, three years before this burial. By the time the will was proved in 1658/9, she must havedied.)12(?) Feb. 1652/3 - burial: "Mary(?), wife of Nathaniel1 Webb"Ended the search in 1653.
Annie NELMES
Birth:
1560
Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Father:
Blocked
Mother:
Blocked
Children
Marriage
1
Chr:
19 Sep 1586
Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England
Death:
Notes:
NOTE:
Will of Richard Webb in PAF Notes
Richard or Ricardi
The will of Richard Webb (Snr.) informs us that he was a "Tacker", which was another term used in the clothing trade, so clearly his son followed his father inthe same business. I believe this adds confirmation to the fact that we have theright family here. The will can be summarised as follows:RICHARD WEBB the elder, of Minchinhampton in the County of Gloucester, tacker... Will proved at the Prerogative Court of Canterbury in London on the 4th March 1658/59. Note, during the "Commonwealth" Republican period after the Civil War, under Cromwell, all the"local" Bishop's Probate Courts where wills were normally "proved" were abolished, and all wills had to be sent to the PCC in London. Note too: in case you arenot aware, that under the old calendar, the "Year" in the 17th century actuallyended on March 24th (rather than as today on the 31st Dec... consequently, dates between January and March are usually shown as above - e.g. to show the real year as 1659) .....In the name of God Amen, the 22nd Nov. A.D. 1649I, Richard Webb, the elder of the parish of Minchinhampton in the County of Gloucester, Tacker, being weak of body but in perfect memory thanks be given unto God, do make andordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following. Imprimis,I bequeath my soul to Almighty God that gave it and my body to be buried in thechurchyard at Minchinhampton above said. Item, I give my son, JOHN £20., part of the sum of £40. given by my father, WILLIAM WEBB of Holcombe of the parish ofHampton above (i.e. Minchinhampton) paid by his last will and testament to be paid by executor, Nathaniel Webb, his son for the use of my children within fouryears after my decease, by £10. a year at my dispose, the first £10. of the twenty aforesaid that is, I give my son John to be paid him the first year after my decease, the second £10. to be paid him the second year after my decease, otherwise I leave it to my wife's discretion. Item, I give unto RICHARD WEBB, my son £10. to be paid him the second year after my decease.Item, I give unto my son, SAMUEL £10. to be paid him the third year after my decease. I give my son, THOMAS one pair of iron doggs (Note: I believe these were devices of wire for running hounds in pairs)I give unto Elizabeth Welsteed, the daughter of Joseph Welsteed my best bed and best coverlidd (covers) after the decease of my wife. I giveunto ELIZABETH, my wife all the rest of my goods and chattels moveable and immoveable, whom I do appoint and make my sole and whole executrix of this my last will and testament.I ordain and appoint Richard Davis of Naysworth (=Nailsworth)of the parish and county above said, yeoman and Thomas Webb, my son my overseersof this my last will and testament and I do give unto them five shillings to beequally divided amongst them. In witness whereof I have put to my hand and sealthe day and year above written by me Richard WebbWitness hereunto Richard Davis; Thomas Webb;(Second sheet - top) This will was proved at London the 4th March1658 (1659) before the Judges for Probate of wills and granting administrationsfully authorised by the Oath of Elizabeth Webb, relict of the said deceased andsole executrix named in the said will To whom was committed Administration of all and singular the goods and chattels and debts of the said deceased according to the tenor and true intent and meaning of the said will, she being first swornby virtue of A Commission truly to administer the same.----------------------........Not only does it confirm the link between the two Richards in the same "clothing trade", and names all the members of his family, but also provides us withthe name of the previous generation, William Webb (Richard of Rodborough's grandfather.)The only other thing I have not been able to find is the surname of Richard's wife, Elizabeth. The Minchinhampton marriage registers actually indicatesa marriage of a Richard Webb and JANE Elger on the 25th Sept. 1625, but the will clearly shows "your" Richard's wife as Elizabeth. Whether Elizabeth was Richard's second wife
ther this is a different Richard I do not know, but clearly, we may only find out by checking the original Minchinhampton baptisms and burials registers. The family search website suggests that Richard Webb married Elizabeth Peterson in Gloucester c. 1625, but I can find no trace of such a marriage in any of the usualindexes - including Boyd's Marriage Index at the Society of Genealogists Library. I have checked the Painswick and Minchinhampton marriage registers and there is no Richard and Elizabeth listed in either of those two parishes. Obviously, the missing Rodborough registers may have had an answer to this, but there is little we can do about that. Checking further back, the only William Webb I can findin Minchinhampton is this entry:William Webb married Ann Nelmes 2nd March 1578/79.This seems rather early, and it is clear that there were several "Webb" families living in these parishes (i.e. Painswick and Minchinhampton) at the end of the 16th century and early 17th century. However, it is quite feasible that thisis "yours", assuming that William may have had a large family and Richard was one of his younger ones, e.g. Richard (the elder) may have been born in the 1590's. We know from the will that William had a son called Nathaniel Webb for he wasnamed as his executor, (* see below - added post-script) but there must have been others.Change Date: 19 Apr 2006 at 00:31:28
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William Webb - Annie Nelmes
William Webb
His parents were Thomas Webb and Altia Lyle.
He married Annie Nelmes . Annie Nelmes was born at Minchinhampton, Gloucester, England 1560 .
They were the parents of 1
child:
Richard Webb
christened 19 Sep 1586.
William Webb died at Holcombe, Minchinhapmton, Yorkshire, England .