William BRAIOSE, III LORD BRAMBER

Birth:

Abt 1153

Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

9 Aug 1211

Corbeil, Marne, France

Burial:

10 Aug 1211

Abbey of St. Victor's Abbey, Paris, France

Father:

William II BRAIOSE, SHERIFF OF HEREFORD LORD BRAMBER

Mother:

Bertha Hereford Gloucester FITZWALTER, PITRES

Notes:

Note:
William de Braose inherited the large estates of his grandmother, Berta de Gloucester, and besides possessed the Honour of Braose, in Normandy. This feudal lord was a personage of great power and influence during the reigns of Henry II and Richard I, from the former of whom he obtained a grant of the whole kingdom of Limeric, in Ireland, for the service of sixty knight's fees, to be held of the king and his younger son, John. For several years after this period, he appears to have enjoyed the favour of King John and his power and possessions were augmented by divers grants from the crown. In the 10th of the king's reign [1209], when the kingdom laboured under an interdiction and John deemed it expedient to demand hostages from his barons to ensure their allegiance should the Pope proceed to the length of absolving them from obedience to the crown, his officers who came upon the mission to the Baron de Braose were met by Maud, his wife, and peremptorily informed that she would not entrust any of her children to the king, who had so basely murdered his own nephew, Prince Arthur. De Braose rebuked her for speaking thus, however, and said that if he had in anything offended the king, he was ready to make satisfaction according to the judgment of the court and the barons, his peers, upon an appointed day and at any fixed place without, however, giving hostages. This answer being communicated to the king, an order was immediately transmitted to seize upon the baron's person, but Braose having notice thereof fled with his family into Ireland.
This quarrel between De Braose and King John is, however, differently related by other authorities. The monk of Llanthony stated that King John disinherited and banished him for his cruelty to the Welsh in his war with Gwenwynwyn, and that his wife Maud and William, his son and heir, died prisoners in Corfe Castle. Another writer relates, that this William de Braose, son of Philip de Braose, Lord of Buelt, held the lands of Brecknock and Went for the whole time of King Henry II, Richard I, and King John without any disturbance until he took to wife the Lady Maud de St. Walerie, who, in revenge of Henry de Hereford, cause divers Welshmen to be murthered in the castle of Bergavenny as they sat at meat; and that for this, and for some other pickt quarrel, King John banished him and all his out of England. Likewise, that in his exile, Maud his wife, with William, galled, Gam, his son, were taken and put into prison where she died the 10th year after her husband fought with Gwenwynwyn and slew three thousand Welch. From these various relations, says Dugdale, it is no easy matter to discover what his demerits were, but what usage he had at last, take here the credit of these two historians who lived near that time. This year, viz. anno 1240, quoth Matthew of Westminster, the noble lady Maud, wife of William de Braose, with William, their son and heir, were miserably famished at Windsor by the command of King John; and William, her husband, escaping from Scorham, put himself into the habit of a beggar and, privately getting beyond sea, died soon after at Paris, where he had burial in the abbey of St. Victor. And Matthew Paris, putting his death in anno 1212 (which differs a little in time), says, That he fled from Ireland to France and, dying at Ebula, his body was carried to Paris and there honourably buried in the abbey of St. Victor. But after these great troubles in his later days, continues Dugdale, I shall now say something of his pious works. Being by inheritance from his mother, Lord of Bergavenny, he made great grants to the monks of that priory, conditionally, that the abbot and convent of St. Vincent, in Maine (to which this priory of Bergavenny was a cell) should daily pray for the soul of him, the said William, and the soul of Maud, his wife.
This great but unfortunate personage had issue by his wife, Maud de St. Walerie, I. William; II. Giles: III. Reginald; IV. Sir John; I. Joane; II. Loretta; III. Margaret; IV. Maud.
When the contest between King John and the barons broke out, Giles de Braose, bishop of Hereford, arraying himself under the baronial banner, was put in possession by the people of Bergavenny and the other castles of the deceased lord, and eventually King John, in the last year of his reign, his wrath then being assuaged, granted part of those lands to the bishop's younger brother and heir. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 72, Braose, Baron Braose, of Gower]
Occupation: 5th Baron of Braose, Lord Brecknock
Fact 1: 5th Baron. Lord of Limerick. Lord of Abergavenny. Lord Brecknock. 17 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 2: For reasons unknown, King John began to persecute William about 1206/07. 18 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 3: In 1208, John demanded hostages. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 4: William's wife Matilda refused to give up their sons for such. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 5: Family forced to flee to Ulster. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 6: In 1210, John invaded Ireland & Matilda fled to Scotland w/ sons. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 7: A Scots Lord captured Matilda & children & gave them to John. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 8: Lord of Brecknock & Upper Gwent. 19 17 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 9: ABT. 1179 Known for massacre of Welsh in his own hall aft inviting them in for a festival. 20 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 10: Ruthless, unscrupulous, bloodthirsty & savage, with a suave veneer on top. 20 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 11: JAN 1202/03 John appt him keeper of his (John's) nephew Arthur, who was later murdered. 21 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 12: APR 1203 It is not known if de Braose or John himself did the murder. 3 5 6 7 8
Fact 13: One of the few barons friendly both to John & Richard. 22 3 5 6 7 8
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Ancestral File and the IGI, International Genealogical Index,both
resource systems developed and solely owned by The Church of JesusChrist of
Latter Day Saints.
Lord of Briouze, Bramber, Brecon and Over Gwent; Sheriff of
Hereford, 1192-1199.
Starved to death by King John.

Maud (Matilda) de ST VALERY

Birth:

Abt 1155

Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

1210

Corfe, Windsor, England

Burial:

Abt 1210

Father:

Bernald IV de ST VALERY

Mother:

Notes:

She was murdered by King John who had her walled up alive in her
castle walls with her young son William.
Murdered by King John, who had her walled up alive in her castle
walls with her son, William.
Aka, Matilda.
Source includes, but is not limited to:
Ancestral File and the IGI, International Genealogical Index,both
resource systems developed and solely owned by The Church of JesusChrist of
Latter Day Saints.
Birth: 1155 in Bramber, Sussex, England
Birth: 1155
Death: 1210 in Corfe, Windsor, England, Starved to death by King John.
Fact 1: Refused to yield sons as hostages to King John after he murdered his nephew Arthur
Fact 2: Walled up within her castle with son William by KIng John in 1210; starved.
Fact 3: Earned John's enmity by accusing him of murder of Arthur, Duke of Brittany.
Fact 4: Final imprisonment ended with her insanely knawing on her son William's face.
Medical Information: Went insane during period of imprisonment that ended in her starvation & death.
Note:
In Ancestral Roots I find that Maud de St. Valerie, wife of William de Braiose (177-6), was killed by King John by being walled up with her young son William in her castle in 1210. Does anyone know the story behind her death?
Essentially, in about 1206-7 John, for reasons unknown, started to persecute William de Briouze and others. Over the next several years things went from bad to worse. In 1208, John demanded hostages from William and Matilda (Maud) apparently said that she wouldn't deliver up her sons to John as he had murdered his nephew Arthur. After this things got really bad and William and his family were forced to flee to Ulster (William was Lord of Limerick). In spring 1210 John prepared an expedition to Ireland and Matilda fled with her sons to Scotland (William was in Wales at this time). Matilda and the children were captured by a Scots lord and handed over to John. Matilda and the eldest son (William IV) were imprisoned, and were never seen again. The common report, recorded in several monastic annals, was that they had been starved to death.
For a fuller version of this I would suggest you read :
King John by W.L. Warren, Eyre Methuen, 1978
The Feudal Kingdom of England 1042-1216 by Frank Barlow, Longman, 1985

Children

Marriage

Flandrina BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1170

of Bramber Castle, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

Roger BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1171

of Bramber Castle, Sussexshire, England

Death:

Marr:

Maud Susan BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1173

of Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

Gruffydd ap RHYS

Marr:

Joan (Alice) de BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1175

of Gower, Kent, England

Death:

Richard PERCY

Marr:

Giles BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1175

of Bramber, Sussexshire, England

Death:

13 Nov 1215

Gloucester, Gloustershire, England

Marr:

Robert BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1166

Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

Thomas BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1175

of Bramber Castle, Sussexshire, England

Death:

Marr:

Laurette BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1176

of Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

4 Mar 1266

Hackington, near Canterbury, Kent, England

Robert FITZPERNELL

Marr:

Walter BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1177

of Bramber Castle, Sussex, England

Death:

Hawisia LONDON

Marr:

Margaret BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1177

of Abergavenny, Wales

Burial:

Abt Nov 1200

Walter LACY, LORD OF MEATH

Marr:

Nov 1200

Reginald BRAIOSE, BARON ABERGAVENNY

Birth:

1178

Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

9 Jun 1228

Brecon, Breconshire, Wales

Gwladys Ddu Verch LLEWELYN, PRINCESS OF WALES HRH

Marr:

Bef 1221

Wales

William the Younger BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1179

Bramber, Sussex, England & Gower, Wales

Death:

1210

Corfe Castle prison (starved to death by King John)

Maud FAY

Marr:

Henry BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1181

of Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

Hugh BRAIOSE

Birth:

1180

Death:

Marr:

John BRAIOSE

Birth:

of Bramber, Sussexshire, England

Death:

Bef 26 Mar 1205

Bramber, Sussex, England

Margaret LLEWELYN

Marr:

Bernard BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1183

of Bramber Castle, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

Eleanor BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1185

of Bramber, Sussexshire, England

Death:

Aft 1241

Hugh MORTIMER

Marr:

Bef 1210

Fulk de BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1188

of Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

Philip de BRAIOSE

Birth:

Abt 1204

of Bramber, Sussex, England

Death:

Marr:

FCID:15859:51519

William Braiose, III Lord Bramber - Maud (Matilda) de St Valery

William Braiose, III Lord Bramber was born at Bramber, Sussex, England Abt 1153. His parents were William II Braiose, Sheriff of Hereford Lord Bramber and Bertha Hereford Gloucester Fitzwalter, Pitres.

He married Maud (Matilda) de St Valery . Maud (Matilda) de St Valery was born at Bramber, Sussex, England Abt 1155 daughter of Bernald IV de St Valery and .

They were the parents of 19 children:
Flandrina Braiose born Abt 1170.
Roger Braiose born Abt 1171.
Maud Susan Braiose born Abt 1173.
Joan (Alice) de Braiose born Abt 1175.
Giles Braiose born Abt 1175.
Robert Braiose born Abt 1166.
Thomas Braiose born Abt 1175.
Laurette Braiose born Abt 1176.
Walter Braiose born Abt 1177.
Margaret Braiose born Abt 1177.
Reginald Braiose, Baron Abergavenny born 1178.
William the Younger Braiose born Abt 1179.
Henry Braiose born Abt 1181.
Hugh Braiose born 1180.
John Braiose
Bernard Braiose born Abt 1183.
Eleanor Braiose born Abt 1185.
Fulk de Braiose born Abt 1188.
Philip de Braiose born Abt 1204.

William Braiose, III Lord Bramber died 9 Aug 1211 at Corbeil, Marne, France .

Maud (Matilda) de St Valery died 1210 at Corfe, Windsor, England .